and the workers, the consumers and teas not right. not every jobeeds to be unionized in america. >> brenda: but, tobin, workers point out it's hard to live on $16,000 a year in new york city, which is essentially what they're making. >> well, it's hard to live in new york city on 16,000 a month let me tell you. the bigger issue, this is a new york issue. if you look at the overall economy and overall states we're having states move to right to work state. less unionization. and so, this is a new york centric problem. you know, the issue of unions, this happens to be the most unionized labor force in the united states. so it sort of lends it self-- they're doing themselves a disservice and if you look at the structure in europe where mcdonald's is very large, le mcdonald's hamburger is a dollar and a half more so that's really added labor costs. >> brenda: gary b, we're the not just talking about fast food, we've seen it at wal-mart, at airports, at the shipping ports and they're flexing their muscles. >> absolutely, and they have the